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09-20-2011, 06:28 AM #1
Great for training panel
Here's a panel that could be used as a training aid!
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09-20-2011, 08:00 AM #2
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That caution tape is too close. It should be 6 feet back from that thing, for safety. BTW, that guy fails the final exam, no doubt.
John Kogel, RHI, BC HI Lic #47455
www.allsafehome.ca
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09-20-2011, 11:52 AM #3
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09-20-2011, 02:29 PM #4
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Obviously, these pictures are pre-fire.
Question, please tell me this was done by a DYI person. I'd be real disgusted if a licensed electrician did this anywhere but on his own panelboard!
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09-20-2011, 04:38 PM #5
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Nice photos - good for a laugh.
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09-22-2011, 08:01 AM #6
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09-22-2011, 02:17 PM #7
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That panel is not a great training aid, but it is a very good example of how not to do things A proper training aid is a panel that was done in a professional & code compliant manner. Just my humble opinion.
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09-22-2011, 06:22 PM #8
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Rollie,
I think what he meant was that panel was a great training aid in class where a student is asked to point out what is wrong ... and the student points to the panel and says "Everything" ... that student gets an "A".
I was thinking it would not make a good training panel because there were too many items for a student to wrap their heads around and report - they need to learn one thing at a time ... have them pick apart the 100 car pile up after they have learned enough to absorb what is being presented to them visually.
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09-23-2011, 06:44 AM #9
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09-23-2011, 06:50 PM #10
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Now Rick never said it was going to be a training aid for 'electricians'. More appropriately a 'perfectly wired panel should be used to illustrate the 'right way'; a hell of a lot easier than showing the newbies a multitude of 'wrong ways' to make it FUBAR.
I would think he meant a 'training aid' for ER or the morgue!
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09-23-2011, 06:59 PM #11
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HA HA HA!!!! You gotta go out of your way to do stuff that wrong.
"It takes a big man to cry. It takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man". - Jack Handey
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09-24-2011, 02:40 PM #12
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09-26-2011, 04:23 AM #13
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Quad tapped I'm impressed !
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09-26-2011, 05:21 AM #14
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Never seen quad tapping, eh? How 'bout this quad tapping example?
By the way, lots more wrong with this panel, AND the other 3 main panels (fed from here) and 4 subpanels in the home. My client (an electrical engineer at a power plant) and I (a mechanical engineer) were rolling on the floor laughing after I pulled the cover off.
All the best,
Bruce Low
Bottom Line Home Inspection
Serving NEW
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09-28-2011, 09:00 PM #15
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Too much beer drinking on those cold Michigan winter days with nothing to do but play around with electricity to try and stay warm.
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09-29-2011, 05:11 AM #16
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Bruce - doesn't qualify for quad tapping, NEC 2020.69 All four conductors must be resonably secured under a single screw down, the paint on insulator does give you an edge, but still significantly diverges from code.
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09-29-2011, 06:58 PM #17
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09-30-2011, 03:23 AM #18
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Probably an Electricians home. You know the shoemaker syndrome.
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09-30-2011, 04:46 AM #19
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for the guy who did it a capital "E" for effort!! and the short answer is where is sparkie... he has some work to do well really alot of work.... no need to go into detail there.
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