Cut truss

[JIM MURPHY]

Inspected a house yesterday and found this in the attic. The air/handler is mounted below this cut truss on a stand. They connected a strap to the main truck line to hold or sercure the line. Other then being wrong what else would you say?

Jim Murphy

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[Darren Miller]

Here's my standard marco:

[0007]Trusses have been cut or altered at ^location^, this may compromise the integrity of the structure. According to today's standard "Truss members and components shall not be cut, notched, spliced or otherwise altered in any way without approval of a registered design professional..." I recommend having any repairs verified by a licensed PE with a copy of his approval stapled to the (damaged) truss in case this question arises when future sales occur.


Funny, I had an inspection several weeks ago that had four cut trusses; two for the pull down ladder and two for the whole house fan. Got the standard answer from the reeeeeltor; house was built that way and passed the town inspection.

[imported_John Smith]

That broken switch cover needs replaced. Its amazing to see the truss cut so cleanly. Usually it looks like they take hatchets to them.

[Rick Hurst]

How can you get all those boxes in the attic if you don't cut out those trusses? Get em on out of there.

rick

[Jerry Peck]

Rick,

Dang builder shoulda knowd bettar dan to put that thar wood in da way anyway, rit?

[Howard Tennyson]

The homeowners may have needed a Yule Log for Christmas day and thought "Hey, there's a bunch of wood in the attic!"

[A.D. Miller]

Inspected a house yesterday and found this in the attic. The air/handler is mounted below this cut truss on a stand. They connected a strap to the main truck line to hold or sercure the line. Other then being wrong what else would you say?

Jim Murphy

Jim:

The obvious truss touche -

R802.7.2 Engineered wood products.

Cuts, notches and
holes bored in trusses, structural composite lumber, structural
glue-laminated members or I-joists are prohibited except
where permitted by the manufacturer’s recommendations or
where the effects of such alterations are specifically considered
in the design of the member by a registered design professional.

The obvious switch plate problem -
404.9 Provisions for General-Use Snap Switches.
(A) Faceplates. Faceplates provided for snap switches mounted in boxes and other enclosures shall be installed so as to completely cover the opening and, where the switch is flush mounted, seat against the finished surface.

The obvious roof decking dilemna -
OSB sheathing/decking cannot be installed in sections less than 24" in width. Can't find the APA doc just now. Gotta go to work soon . . .

[A.D. Miller]

Can't find the text, but found the picture -

[Jerry Peck]

The obvious roof decking dilemna -

OSB sheathing/decking cannot be installed in sections less than 24" in width. Can't find the APA doc just now. Gotta go to work soon . . .

Can't find the text, but found the picture -

Also note in that drawing where it states "Each piece must be continuous over at least two spans." That's because that is the way it was rated.

Which means minimum length is 48" for the typical 24" o.c. roof framing, unless another *structural* framing blocking is installed.

Which brings up another pet peeve: sheathing which does not reach the top chord of the truss so they just nail another 2x4 to the side of the top chord with two or three nails and then nail the end of the sheathing to it.

You really think that 2x4 with those two or three nails is equivalent to being nailed to the truss (or rafter)? Heck no, that piece of wood will pull right off when the roof sheathing is placed under design loading.

[A.D. Miller]

Which brings up another pet peeve: sheathing which does not reach the top chord of the truss so they just nail another 2x4 to the side of the top chord with two or three nails and then nail the end of the sheathing to it.

You really think that 2x4 with those two or three nails is equivalent to being nailed to the truss (or rafter)? Heck no, that piece of wood will pull right off when the roof sheathing is placed under design loading.

JP: I see this on every other house. It's a Mexican carpentero cult ritual, I think. If you lie on your back in the attic and look at all of the 2X4s thusly place it spells out the following:

Mas Que un Carpentero

or, if you press 1 on your phone, that reads More than a carpenter . . .

[grace holt]

JP: I see this on every other house. It's a Mexican carpentero cult ritual, I think. If you lie on your back in the attic and look at all of the 2X4s thusly place it spells out the following:

Mas Que un Carpentero

or, if you press 1 on your phone, that reads More than a carpenter . . .

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